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- From: "Shane R. Monroe" <darkuni@nwinternet.com>
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: Why are europeans dumb enough to buy amigas?
- Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:45:07 -0800
- Organization: Dark Unicorn Productions
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- > EXACTLY!!! Most people have NO IDEA what a PeeCee really is. They buy it because
- > of the brainwash they are exposed to; PeeCee ads are everywhere and so are PeeCees.
- > And, let's put something straight: AMIGAS WERE NOT MADE TO BECOME THE ULTIMATE
- > GAMES MACHINES!!! But that *@%#! company Commodore marketed them as "home"
- > machines and consequently they became toys in the eyes of the public.
- >
- > PeeCees became business machines because that's the only thing they could do:
- > boooooring business applications. Even today, many companies use text-based
- > data entry systems; and I've actually been to one for a few days! The Amiga
- > however was meant to be "the computer for the creative mind", and in fact it
- > still is. But the crowd can NOT see it because it's behind the scenes.
- >
- > I still am proud of being an Amiga owner and would only change it for a better
- > Amiga. And someone tell me: how many PeeCee users out there can have a file
- > finder, an image converter, an image viewer, a file compressor AND playing
- > a game on the Spectrum emulator, ALL AT THE SAME TIME? Or, the PeeCee user's
- > nightmare: doing something else while an application is printing! And I can
- > do all that on my "toy" A1200 (68020!!!) with 6MB of RAM! Yes, it slows down the
- > machine a lot (and I may run out of memory) but I can STILL play the game on the
- > emulator at a proper speed! And all those at 3 mips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- > Which is at least 30-40 times slower that a Pentium, innit?
- >
- > Well, I hope I made a lot (well, there ARE a lot of PeeCee users out there after
- > all!) of jaws drop and eyes pop out! And possibly some Amiga users who are
- > considering to change platform...
-
-
- Alright, I will add my 2 cents worth on this topic as a long term Amiga
- fanatic that now owns a PC as well.
-
- Here is my opinion for whatever it is worth.
-
- The Amiga
-
- PROS: The best damn OS every created (3.1). The ONLY machine that
- still truly multitasks for under $10K. It is the most versatile machine
- ever created. It can do whatever you need of it with the right software
- and hardware. If you want user power on the OS level, this is the RIGHT
- machine. One of the best stock machines for video work (get SCALA and
- see what I mean). The absolute BEST shareware market for any system.
- You can own an Amiga and never buy commercial software and STILL have a
- great system.
-
- CONS: Incredibly crappy marketing, users who WON'T UPGRADE THEIR DAMN
- SYSTEMS so we are all stuck playing vanilla A500 games from floppy,
- companies that won't FORCE the users to upgrade (there are notable
- exceptions). People who own the Amiga technology (at any given time in
- history) won't make use of it properly. Its video handling was KICK ASS
- in the 80's, now with all the polygon processors and chunky pixel 3D
- games hitting the market (and taking the market) it is out of date. GFX
- cards help, but until AT makes a graphics card the STANDARD on the
- Amiga, it will take the backseat to PC and playstation. The need for
- CDROM to be a STANDARD on the Amiga for about 6 years is killing the
- hell out of the machine. Take note. I told this to Petro last July in
- Pensylvannia, and I see nothing has changed. DUP is committed to the CD
- market - THAT is the future. Better get the prices down too.
-
- The PC (Pentium based, 16 MB, 1 GIG, 1MB graphic card, SB 16 or better)
-
- PROS: Damn but it plays a good game of Duke Nuke Em 3d! I don't
- remember the last time I had so much fun playing a computer game.
- (Well, maybe Deluxe Galaga ;) More software than you can shake a stick
- at. Global world-wide support. I can actually walk into an EB and get
- a copy of NIGHT TRAP if I want it. FMV is finally getting it right -
- PHANTASMAGORIA and SWAT are great examples - and these are actually FUN!
- Shootemups are even getting good - Tyrrian is awesome. Hell, I even
- saw BATTLE ARENA TOSHINDEN on the PC - and it was pretty damn good -
- even on a P75. There are even some decent utilities like GOLDWAVE and
- PAINT SHOP PRO as well as ACDSEE Win95. Internet software blows AWAY
- anything currently on the Amiga. No discussion required. Plus, these
- damn things just keep getting cheaper.
-
- The CONS: Jeezus, can't you people EVER figure out how to make an OS???
- Sure Win95 is a nice advance, but it is far from being worth its hard
- drive space - I mean 52 megs? And I left stuff OUT??? The sound
- quality is still lacking (yes I have heard an Ultrasound from Gravis)
- but still doesn't match the hi-fi out of my Amiga - wavetable synthesis
- is pretty brilliant tho. For those of you who wanted to argue earlier
- about multitasking on the PC vs. Amiga above, just access drive A: in
- Win95 and watch what happens: the system grinds to a stop. I can run 4
- of them at a time with the Ami. Granted, the PC doesn't use the floppy
- much at the same time ... Bloodthirsty and theivery in the
- marketplace. Any system that REQUIRED a ram doubler, memory manager,
- graphics accelerators, etc etc wasn't built right to begin with. These
- bastards bleed the market every chance they get. It really is a
- conspiracy. That is why I try and stay in the shareware market with the
- PC. Homey don't play dat.
-
-
- BOTTOM LINE: The PC isn't as bad as it was about 3 years ago and if
- they ever do something RIGHT with the OS, they very well might push the
- Amiga right off the ledge. PC is a great gaming and internet box, but
- still leaves a lot to be desired in the OS. The Amiga is the ultimate
- power home box with extreme versatility but is getting old and no one
- seems to want to reach out and help it (users included). Expensive to
- get into, but cheaper to 'maintain'.
-
- 'Nuff said...
-